Interview with
Sensei Derek Eastman. 5th Dan.
By David J Wilson E.S.T.A. secretary. - July 2003.
I have known Sensei Eastman for some 12 years and during those years I have heard so many stories about both Sensei Eastman and Sensei Ellis and their dedication to
early promotion of UK Aikido, some of
history highlights their hard training and appreciation of a true martial art, yet there are many amusing anecdotes. Sensei Eastman is
only Aikido student from 1950's "Hut " dojo who has never given an interview stating that "Sensei Ellis's story is more interesting than mine". I asked Sensei Eastman to let
readers decide that on agreeing to this interview…
Introduction
Q -DW: Sensei Eastman , first I would like to thank you for agreeing to this interview.
A -SE: My pleasure David.
Q -DW: When were you born?
A -DE: I was a premature baby; I was born 20 years too soon on
31st-12-1943.
Q -DW: Where were you born?
A -SE: West Kensington (behind Harrods) London.
Q -DW: Before your introduction to Aikido were you ever involved in any other sports.
A -SE: Yes, I was in
County school track and field team and would often run for my county school in various events.
Q -DW: Now
important question Sensei, What year did you start your Way in Aikido ?
A -SE: I made a brief start at
end of 1959. .
Q -DW: Where did you begin your long journey of Aikido?
A -SE: At
now Internationally famed "Hut" or as it later became
"Abbe School of Budo" It was actually called
"Abbe School of Judo" when I first joined.
First visit to
" HUT" Dojo.
Q -DW: Would Judo have been your first introduction to martial arts on your first visit To
"Hut"?
A -SE: I vividly remember that first visit with a friend of mine, as we walked into
Hall no one noticed us as all eyes were focused on
action on
mat. There was a guy in
centre of
mat with a blindfold on who I later came to know as Sensei Harry Ellis. The blind folded student was being attacked by three other high grades, and believe me they were not messing around, in addition to three students attacking
blind folded student there was another guy who was obviously
top man here ( I later found out he was Sensei Williams). He was whacking
guy with a shinai (bamboo sword) shouting at him about his bad posture and not moving around fast enough. My friend turned to me and said " Jeeezzz Del ! , I don't want any of that, do you?, I'm out of here". With that he left. Maybe I was not thinking straight but I stayed around and asked for some club information on beginners classes.
Q -DW: After witnessing that first insight into
martial arts, why didn't you make
same wise move as your friend?
A -SE: I didn't really know what I was watching, my first impression was that maybe it could be ju-jitsu or something like that, hmmm why did I stay? I am not sure, crazier still
question should be why did I sign up. I belonged to a motor cycle gang and I was
proud owner of a Royal Enfield 350cc. I was also too young to hold a driving license. In those days our favourite place was
historic town of Windsor, which was a great meeting place for motorcycle gangs/groups. The problem was
place was full of soldiers of
Castle guard. There were always fights with our guys and
soldiers of
Queens Household Cavalry who were a tough old bunch of lads. In one of these frequent battles I got really hammered by one of
Castle guards, I then decided to check out
local Judo school, that's it!! I was in there and I joined there and then.
The Beginning of an Aikido Odyssey.
Q -DW: Sensei, tell me about your first class and who was your teacher?
A -SE: My first class was in Sensei Ellis's Monday night beginners class, this was
biggest class of
week with between 40 to 50 students a night on
mat. Sensei Ellis's class was always packed to overflowing, and
training was always hard, yet I enjoyed it and found that I seemed to fit in naturally to this new martial art of Aikido.
Q -DW: Sensei, you said at
beginning of this interview that " I made a brief start in 1959" what did you mean by a brief start?
A -SE: Well, what happened was, I had a very serious crash on my motorcycle and my injuries were severe. I was on crutches for three months. I made a slow but good recovery and eventually went back to Aikido. My teacher was still Sensei Ellis, I had only been back on
mat for about 4 or 5 lessons when one evening Sensei Ellis asked Sensei Williams to come on
mat and watch something. I soon realised that
something was me, and to my surprise Sensei Ellis was smashing me all over
mat, as he threw me I just kept bouncing back up. He then said to Sensei Williams; "Sensei, have you ever seen anyone ukemi like that before?" Sensei Williams then took me down in nikyo, a very painful wrist locking technique, he seemed to hold me down for a very long time before allowing me up. He looked at Sensei Ellis and said "He's only a beginner give him time." Sensei Ellis replied "You told me to take an assistant, that's him!" Sensei Williams looked annoyed and sharply retorted "No! an assistant has to be 3rd kyu or higher" Sensei Ellis was persistent and eventually got his way, of course I was not involved in this discussion. As Sensei Williams walked away Sensei Ellis then asked me to be his assistant. He said I had a week to make up my mind, as I walked away Sensei Ellis said "Derek ! you don't have a choice by
way, let me know at
end of class". I become Sensei Ellis's Assistant .